I didn’t think that Rudolf Rocker quote would take off like that.
I probably should have added the cavaet that I’m not an anarcho-syndicalist and not the biggest fan of unions. But the quote itself was pretty good and I thought captured the essence of anarchism which is that when people are left to their own devices, as a whole, they will always produce for themselves and for society at their maximum ability*.
*Sort of. Some might be lazy, others might focus on inefficient subjects or methods, but that’s expected because we are all human, after all. No one and no system is perfect.
Q: What message do you think is the hardest for people to accept about a free society?
A: “Believe it or not, it isn’t, “Who will build the roads?” I actually became a libertarian in college thanks to Milton Friedman’s book “Free To Choose.” That was my launching pad 30 years ago. And the message that is the hardest for people of all political persuasions to accept about a free society is freedom itself. People just don’t trust other people. They think freedom would work fine for me and you. But they just don’t believe other people can handle it. Other people need to be told what to do. Other people have to be forced to do what is right. Even if the majority of people could handle it. There are just too many people that can’t handle it. I seriously think this is our number one roadblock. Convincing people to trust other people.” - Libertarian Taoist
A: “Letting go of their dependence, I would say. Being self-sustaining, independent. At least the avowed statists, that is. I think it’s also hard to let go of the idea that “government” is an omnipotent deity that can solve our social problems with coercion. It’s the “up is down, black is white, good is evil” thinking that is hard for people to let go of, in regards to statism vs. freedom. I mean there are literally so many things that could be said, but that’s the first thing that came to my mind.” -Edmond V Dantes
A: “That we’d really be better off. Or that it can sort itself out. People also used to think that society would collapse without a king or that we’d all die if we left the caves. Primitive minds. I read a study once that explained that the difference between the primitive mind and the advanced one is that the advanced mind can understand analogies and can imagine how things are without physical evidence or representation. I think that we’re currently in the middle of that biological evolution where people’s brains are beginning to advance more and more, thanks in large part to technology and teaching tools. Within a few generations people will not only grasp the concept of free markets and free societies, they will demand and implement it. Call me an optimist.” - SugaShane
A: “Who’s going to build the roads? Oh wait, that’s just the most common “criticism.” I think the hardest aspect of anarchism is the idea of no rulers. We’ve all been programmed from young children to believe in the illusion of authority. Whether you are taught you have to obey God as a higher power in church or being propagandized in school to obey your teachers, principles, and the state itself. It’s hard to change something that has been so programmed into people from a young age. Which is why there are such institutions. They are institutions of control. Once people can understand that they are their own self ruler they can accept anarchism.” - Moral Anarchism
A: “To realize that it’s almost statistically impossible for a society absent the state to be more violent than one with it is. It’s hard for people to shrug the notion our culture embeds in us that we simply need the government, and without out we’d be lawless animals. As much as most people distrust cops and feel threatened by them (rather than protected,) we immediately feel apprehension when we imagine a world without. The world we fear exists with them here already. The very fact that most people don’t want to live in a lawless world is proof that they wouldn’t act that way in the absence of cops.” - The Free Lioness
ThinkSquad is currently interviewing a lot of bloggers here on Tumblr and I have really enjoyed reading people’s responses to this question. So I decided to share a few of the longer ones! (Sorry for being gratuitous and including my own!) You can read the full interviews here.
That was my favorite question as well. I did it no justice but it’s fun to see that the theme of “working with others” is central to most of the responses.
This is open totalitarianism .
Relax, it hasn’t gone that far. It would only eliminate filibusters for specific types of nominees.
It hasn’t gone as far as blocking all filibusters.
But that’s the end game. It’s like connect four. You don’t want to line up too many things in your favor in case you lose power over the office, house, senate or the office of the President. But you do want to slowly position yourself for when the time comes and you can completely shut out the other party once and for all.
Doing things too quickly can result in a dangerous backfire of power confiscation, leaving your opposition in charge and ready to shut the door.
There are guys who get paid to literally play theoretical legislative chess and to plan out when to make moves and when not to. Everything in politics is calculated. Everything.
How to become a libertarian
Rand Paul as President might be the worst thing that would happen to the liberty movement.
wouldn’t focusing any efforts toward the presidency be a defunct move at this point? Are you truly convinced we haven’t passed the point of no return, so to speak,…
The thing about free riders is, no matter what the govt does, there will always be a significant number of people who can’t take care of themselves. I think we are going to have to decide if these people have a value as humans, or if they don’t. If not, we need to cut our losses and quit pretending. If they do, we need a way to actually take care of them. I think this will be the biggest turning point of the next century.
All humans have value. (yes, all of them).
I think that there is value in preventing poverty or helping those in poverty for those who live above it.
#1, these people need to buy what you’re selling.
#2. these people need to work for you and produce goods.
#3. there is “critical mass” that is required for both upholding a certain life style that the rich have become accustomed to and also for maintaining the existence of humanity.
There are probably other reasons that I missed, but I think these 3 are important enough aspects to motivate the rich from protecting the less fortunate.
For example, if the gap between rich and poor is too great, you have the Bolshevik revolution of Russia. Where the poor were so fed up and so great in number that the upper class was no longer able to control or suppress them. Same thing happened in America in the 1770s and other parts of the world. If you let the perceived gap of the quality of life widen to far, eventually people will revolt.
We’re headed in that direction, as is a large portion of the world.
This isn’t necessarily a bad thing.
It could go in many ways. There could be a peaceful revolt and revolution, as we saw in Iceland. Or we can have the Arab Spring, with civil war burning throughout the country.
There’s also no real way to predict the outcome of such changes, peaceful or violent. The government can win and instill worse regulations. A real police state. (ROBOTS AND DRONES!) or the worst ideas of the people can win and we live in socialism (MOTHER FUCKING MARX! SEE YOU IN HELL ŽIŽEK!!!)
It’s not just hard to predict where we’ll end up, or how, it’s ridiculous to do so. But given the current path, we are certainly on the cusp of some kind of push-back by the vast public. It’s actually begun, as I mentioned, in parts of Europe and the Middle East.
I think the next big one to watch out for is in Asia. Pakistan, Russia or North Korea. I’ll hold back on putting China on there because their government so far has been smart enough to keep pushing towards more deregulation, freedom and free market economics. Sure, it doesn’t seem like it, but it’s slowly evolving. Hong Kong is China’s grand experiment and the eventual position in which China hopes to find itself. Hong Kong is also the world leader in many respects (economic and civil), so it’s a good bulls-eye for China.
Just say no to Socialism.
If we can avoid a socialist revolt in any of the major countries, I think we’ll be safe. (I’m looking at you, America!)
Rand Paul as President might be the worst thing that would happen to the liberty movement.
wouldn’t focusing any efforts toward the presidency be a defunct move at this point? Are you truly convinced we haven’t passed the point of no return, so to speak, regarding the level of corruption of the U.S. bureaucratic institutions?
Yes and no.
The system is clearly broken. But no “system” is ever broken beyond repair as they aren’t physical. They are simply processes that can be restructured, reorganized, reworded, discarded, etc.
It will probably be one massive effort (or a series of massive efforts) to fix it, but it is doable. Not sure how far we are from such a “reboot” of democracy, but it’s bound to happen. It’s historically inevitable.
I, for one, look forward to the excitement of the next constitutional convention. I think we’ll see a lot of libertarian/anarchist influence in it, especially given how the youth of this country is leaning.
We’ll probably see a lot more technology integrated into the government (democratic process). We’ll probably see electronic (mobile) voting. Continuous voting (daily, weekly, monthly votes directly from your phone, computer or any electronic device). People will be able to vote directly on any law they want to vote on.
Another change I see happening is how many options we get when we do vote. No more the lesser of two evils. Pick as many names as you want. Rank them in order. Algorithms will calculate the rest. Heck, we might not even have “representatives” anymore, at any level of government. Maybe just a giant IT staff. Maybe no real staff at all but a giant open source code which can be audited at anytime by anyone to ensure that all functions are proper and up to par.
Taxes will probably come into question, as will money/currency. I see taxes becoming a voluntary thing, where one would only pay for things they voted for. None of us will have the same tax percentage to follow but more of a receipt, like one you get at a grocery store for your purchases. And that receipt, probably digital, can validate your usage of those items you chose to fund, essentially taking care of the “free rider” problem to a certain degree. This is as close to free market government as one can get. Taxation on an individual level. No more blanket extortion of the few by the many (or the many by the few!).
So, no, I don’t think the system is irreparable because it’s just a figment of our imagination. It’s just an idea. We can fix ideas, no matter how broken they seem.
V for Vendetta was a great movie. Guy Fawkes was a worthless piece of shit. Let’s not mask history because of the popularity of a mask.
Why do we just assume that California is a Democrat state?
I always found it weird that everyone just assumes that California is a Democrat state.
We JUST had a Republican governor. In fact, we’ve had many republican governors run California.
California has put three men in the white house (Hoover, Nixon, Reagan) and all three were Republican and that came over the span of almost 60 years.
We have one of the largest if not the largest population of libertarians.
We also have huge gun culture in California. It’s shockingly big. California is one of the top four in number of background checks for gun purchases per year. Our per capita gun ownership is estimated at about 22% (which I think is way underestimated), but we’re one of the most populated states out there with 38 million people living here. That means the 22% actually translates to 8.3 million gun owners.
That 8.3 million is so large that if it became it’s own state, it would be the 12th largest in terms of population. We have more gun owners in California that 39 other states have in terms of residents. Think about that.
With all of these numbers in mind, I don’t understand how we can’t overturn so of these asinine laws that prevent us from owning certain types of guns and accessories and how we’ve failed to block so many of these baseless new laws from passing.
Do we lack proper organization and leadership? Is the NRA failing or is it to large of a system for them to support? Is the GOofA too small? What’s up, Cali? How do we fix this?
It’s coming, I can feel it.
Now that we know the NSA has records on the entire human population that’s connected to the internet, we can also conclude that they know where all the libertarians/volunteerists/anarchists/anti-government folks are.
Sooner or later, they’re going to come for all these people in one capacity or another. Either by paying a visit, putting them on no fly lists, confiscating property, including guns. Maybe even arresting them or putting them in a “secured” camp. Not sure how or when, but I have a feeling that it’s going to come.
The only positive note I can add to this is that there is a rapidly growing disdain among the people. Not only does less and less of the population trust the government, more and more people are figuring out that they actually hate the government.
And this change of heart isn’t just in the USofA, it’s world-wide. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think there has ever been a decade in human history filled with so much revolution and civil war as we’ve seen since the start of the 9/11-War on Terror era.
It seems like every single year, at least one country is going through some form of revolution. Either a complete overthrow of the government or a complete revamping of elected officials. It’s been astonishing to witness. The shame is that most of humanity has no idea how extraordinary of a time they are living through. The only event that could top what we are experiencing would be if aliens from another planet touched down in Central Park. Historians a thousand years from now will recite the events of the 2000’s to the 2010’s to their students with immeasurable zeal.
And yet, my mind pulls me back to the present day as we live it now and a bit of fear crawls back into my nerves. It’s not a fear of anything specific, more like the fear one gets from thinking to much about what swims beneath while taking a dip in the ocean. The government in mysterious and unpredictable. I stay wondering not if but how they will react, because they will react. They must react, given the throbbing discontent that’s flowing through the public.